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Angie
Angie
Calgary
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We have had this brief debate through main page pooh a while ago and it's been on my mind since. I have done some research and it does look like there are many sources predicting that the world will end in 2012.

It looks like December 21, 2012 is the date - according to Maya Civilization. Maya calendar suggests that there will be some strange celestial alignments taking place on 21/12/2012. Unfortunately, Christians made their mark once again and burned everything Maya civilization has written so we don't have full accounts of their knowledge.

Speaking of the end of the world - y2k was supposed to be the end of computer world, everyone was freaking out yet nothing happened. The computers didn't crash, everything went on as normal.

Following reports found in Zeitgeist movie, there's going to be a change from the age of Pisces (Jesus), into the Age of Aquarius (the Water bringer). It could be associated with major floods that may bring a lot of death, but rather than end of the world, it will mean "change" or "clean up".
Mayans may have referred to it as "transformation of consciousness", in modern age it would be more appropriate to say - "evolution"

Bring on the end of the world!

Dec 3, 2007 at 11:41 am 
pornask
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Edmonton
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You have offered the answer yourself - it's not the end of the world we're gonna get in 2012. It's the end of the age. The Age of Pisces will come to an end and the Age of Aquarius will take charge. Zeitgeist is a good movie to get educated in this manner. The first part deals with this
Dec 3, 2007 at 11:45 am 
pothead
pothead
Fort McMurray
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Mayan and Aztec calendars are certainly not the only ones predicting the end of the world in 2012. I-Ching, an old Chinese book of changes predicts the end of the world for the same very date - December 21, 2012, the solstice day.

Whether anything happens on that day, I do not know. there's been so many end of the world predictions already and nothing came out of it eventually, that i remain skeptic through these new ones just as well. I know what I will be doing on December 21, 2012. I will get plastered, stoned the fuck out of and will wake up with terrible headache on December 22, 2012.

Dec 3, 2007 at 12:05 pm 
Cervantes
Cervantes
Edmonton
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Y2k didn't cause disaster because we spent 2 years reprogramming everything so it would work OK.
Dec 3, 2007 at 12:43 pm 
YellowFrog
YellowFrog
Vegreville
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Posts: 300
2012 and the end of the world is just another doomsday hype. There's been so many of them already, I’d think people would learn from it by now.

On a second though, I wouldn't mind a little end of the world. I really need to take a break

Dec 3, 2007 at 1:51 pm 
Mark
Mark
Edmonton
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A smart business minded person would take advantage of the hype. 2012 is going to cause a lot of talk and many people will fall for it whether it's true or not. But from pure business point of view, it would be smart to start a business that deals with bunker sales or preparedness supplies so by the time December of 2012 comes, the business gets established and we'd make a killing. Who's up
Dec 3, 2007 at 1:55 pm 
Dustin
Dustin
Leduc
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Cervantes wrote:
Y2k didn't cause disaster because we spent 2 years reprogramming everything so it would work OK.

computers reprogrammed or not handled Y2K fine
that was just a money grab

I dout the world will end up Im excited for the change in age
Bye Jesus!
Dec 3, 2007 at 3:01 pm 
Lila
Lila
Edmonton
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I don't think it's a doomsday. Mayans have some wicked abilities and put down things we're only starting to understand now. Mayan calendar was more accurate than the calendar we use now. Mayans have predicted the cycles of galaxies and comets that we are only discovering now with latest technology. They even provided exact dates that were so precise they went down to the minute. We're only starting to see distant galaxies that Mayans were able to see thousands of years ago. Mayans have predicted stellar alignments that we are only learning about based on latest research. There have also been reports of spots on the sun that Mayans knew of many millennia ago. Mayans were some crazy civilization.

Will there be the end of the world as Mayans predicted in 2012? I don’t know. Their calendar ends in 2012, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it will be the end of the world.

Dec 3, 2007 at 4:02 pm 
DarkDream
DarkDream
Salt Lake City
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I think we're dealing with people's natural desire for something of major significance to happen during their lifetime. In other words, it's our ego that desires the end of the world but everyone has been badly disappointed each time they tried to boost their with each previous end of the world. It sounds nice, but I don’t think the world will end in 2012.
Dec 3, 2007 at 4:06 pm 
anamaria
anamaria
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Mayan Calendar Ends on December 21, 2012

Mayans were the first people to predict the end of the world in 2012. They were notorious for their highly accurate astrological tools they built out of stone and for bloodthirsty sacrificing of Virgins.

Mayans calculated the length of the lunar moon thousands of years ago - according to their calculations, the lunar moon lasts 329.53020 days - which is only inaccurate by 34 seconds. If Mayans were able to calculate the length of Lunar Cycle so accurately thousands of years ago, is it possible that their calculation of the end of the world - which according to their calculations falls on December 21, 2012 - is also that accurate?

Sun Storms Reach its Peak in 2012

Scientists studying solar energy and the behavior of the Sun have noticed that the Sun Storms have been radiating the Earth with so much deadly energy, many of human made satellites and power grids have been knocked out as results of this radiation. The calculations suggest that this solar activity is going to get worse and its peak will be reached in 2012.

Religions, Bible, I-Ching, Hindu - All Warn Us About 2012

It’s not only scientists that are coming with warnings regarding the end of the world, but also religions of all sorts say the same. Western book of all books – Bible, representing Christians reveals that the battle between Goon and Evil “Armageddon” has been set to take place in 2012. Chinese Book of Changes also known as I-Ching also mentions 2012 as the year of the end of the world. Hindu teachings suggest the very same thing.

Yellowstone Volcano Will Erupt in 2012

The Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone National Park in the US is world famous for its thermal springs which sit right above the world’s largest volcano. The pattern of erupting the Yellowstone volcano has been following repeats itself every 650 thousand years. For whatever reason, the volcano is past overdue with its eruption, but the pressure in its depths is building and the geologists predict that it will go off in 2012 with a massive bang, filling the sky with thick layers of ash, potentially blocking the sun and throwing the Earth into a 15 000 years long freezing winter.

Poles Will Shift in 2012

The Earth is protected from Sun’s radiations by the magnetic field that surrounds it. The North and the South poles of the Earth Swap places every 750 thousands years or so. When pole swapping occurs, the magnetic field disappears often for as long as hundred years exposing the planet to the radiation of the Sun that is so strong it will burn the skin crisp in seconds. Right now, the pole swapping is overdue about 30 000 years from its usual pattern. However, scientists are noticing that the poles are starting to shift faster and faster, moving about 25 kilometers every year, which is much faster than has ever been recorded before. This is likely a sign of the pole shift coming very, very soon. Scientists are estimating that the pole shift will take place in… you guessed it – year 2012.
Dec 3, 2007 at 4:24 pm 
Paulie
Paulie
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As mentioned on the front page... I think it signifies a change, more so than the end. Maybe an end of how we do things now, but not the end of the world.

I use to talk to a guy online, and his theory was that it would be another war, beyond anything we could imagine.

There's lots of things we could really look at. The theory that the internet will run low on space by 2012, and dear god. Look up random things. So many of them point to 2012 for different reasons.

I really believe something will happen. I'm just not so sure it'll be the end of the world completely.
Dec 3, 2007 at 9:08 pm 
Angie
Angie
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There has to be something about December 21, 2012. It's one single date and it is so significant to many cultures, many religions, many scientists.

It's not only ancient Mayans who foretold the World's last day:

- The Hopi Indians see the day of great purification of Earth.
- Nostradamus speaks of devastating asteroid (albeit his predictions are based on personal perception of an individual who reads it).
- The Chinese I-Ching predicts the end of the world and end of history.
- The Bible foretell the coming Apocalypse in the Book of Revelations.
- The prophecies of St. Malachy predict only one more pope.
- Edgar Cayce predicts the return of Atlantis.
- Alberta Einstein warns that Earth's poles will shift.
- NASA confirms the solar storms are getting more intense and they could reach their peak at 2012.

In 2012, Earth will complete its 26 000 years wobble. Our Sun will align with the plane of Milky Way. These are facts Mayan civilization knew thousands of years ago. We are just starting to see it.

It does look like December 12, 2012 is going to be a significant day. Are we going to witness a new beginning or the END?

Dec 3, 2007 at 10:14 pm 
Paulie
Paulie
Edmonton
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Preferably, not the end
Dec 3, 2007 at 11:38 pm 
JGroovyman
JGroovyman
Edmonton
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I find this very interesting.
Hopefully it turns out to be just like the year 2000 computer scare.......a big nothing.
Dec 4, 2007 at 5:18 am 
Dustin
Dustin
Leduc
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this stupid thread is making me want 2012 to come now i wanna see what happens!
Dec 4, 2007 at 8:56 am 
pornask
pornask
Edmonton
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I wouldn't keep my fingers crossed. I think it's true as it was pointed above that people are too ego centric and want a major event to happen in their life time. Hence we always seem to find predictions of catastrophic events that apply to immediate future. Sucks... so much for the end of the world.
Dec 4, 2007 at 9:08 am 
Dustin
Dustin
Leduc
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no i know
i really dont think anything will happen
i have never bought into the dooms day thing

Dec 4, 2007 at 9:40 am 
Trader
Trader
St. Albert
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Posts: 9
Mark wrote:
A smart business minded person would take advantage of the hype. 2012 is going to cause a lot of talk and many people will fall for it whether it's true or not. But from pure business point of view, it would be smart to start a business that deals with bunker sales or preparedness supplies so by the time December of 2012 comes, the business gets established and we'd make a killing. Who's up


If your looking for a business angle, bunkers are not the place to be. You have to invest in something that people don't have but can easily buy if they think there is significant reason to panic. Here's a freeby - CPST - it trades on the NASDAQ, it will shoot on any large scale panic, they make generators and had a good run during Katrina but has since backed off significantly. If you've got money to burn, go for it.

Besides that, I don't believe that people should even entertain the idea that the world will end. It won't end on 2012 and it won't end after that either. People have always put out numbers and their justifications as to why the world will end on a certain date. They always seem smart and are always wrong. It either has something to do with the pyramids, secret bible code, or ancient south american civilization, and it's never right. Anyone wanting to find out when the world will end should read "88 reason why the world will end in 88" or its sequel, "89 reasons why the world will end in 89", they are real books too.





Dec 4, 2007 at 3:06 pm 
Channy
Channy
Edmonton
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If the world was going to end... then why worry about it? I mean there is nothing anyone can do about it... so instead we will just have a huge end of the world party, get pissed, get high, and have lots of sex.... best way i can think of going out...
Dec 4, 2007 at 3:15 pm 
Chocolate
Chocolate
Edmonton
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Very interesting read. You learn something new every day, glad to see what awesome resource of information this thread is.

I personally like the idea of end-of-the-world party

Dec 4, 2007 at 3:26 pm 
Lynn
Lynn
Newfoundland
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I dont know why you are saying the world will come to an end.. Why ?
Dec 4, 2007 at 4:24 pm 
pothead
pothead
Fort McMurray
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We're not saying world will come to an end. We're just discussing what ancient civilizations left for us and exploring what it could mean. It's a debate. We don't know the outcome yet
Dec 4, 2007 at 4:29 pm 
Steve
Steve
Cold Lake
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Channy wrote:
If the world was going to end... then why worry about it? I mean there is nothing anyone can do about it... so instead we will just have a huge end of the world party, get pissed, get high, and have lots of sex.... best way i can think of going out...


Why wait till the end of the world!!!!!
Dec 4, 2007 at 8:33 pm 
Steve
Steve
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Our own personal end is at hand each and every day, or at least the definite possibility. This differs in that it implies the end of life, in many forms, at a given moment or within a short period of time. A polar shift for example would be an extinction level event. The dramatic climatic upheaval would set the stage for what will follow man on the planet, just as we have followed the demise of other orders that preceded us.
Dec 4, 2007 at 8:39 pm 
Chocolate
Chocolate
Edmonton
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Well, as long as it's not the aliens who attack the Earth and kill every human alive in 2012, I'm OK with it. Though probability of men killing each other is more likely. When it comes to blood thirsty aliens, we don't have any proof they exist. When it comes to blood thirsty men - we see them every day. They do exist. They are right here right now.
Dec 5, 2007 at 11:07 am 
Angie
Angie
Calgary
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Contdown to Extinction

1842 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes, and 23 seconds till December 12, 2012
Dec 5, 2007 at 10:24 pm 
MizunoMP37
MizunoMP37
Calgary
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I was in Hawaii for the new Century to come in 2000, and I was waiting for that freaking everything will shutdown.....well...nothing happen....will see on this one....I dont know where should I be at....hmmm.....??????
Dec 5, 2007 at 11:38 pm 
Tender
Tender
Edmonton
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Posts: 736
Yeah, I'm just as confused. But I won't keep my fingers crossed, if the world ends, I'd be pleasantly surprised. That would be the first out of thousands of end of the world predictions that actually came true.
Dec 5, 2007 at 11:49 pm 
Pierre
Pierre
Texas, US
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I have actually much interest in this topic, i have been looking into this for some time now. And yes some things they have found do point that they belived that the world would end on that date but they also belive that it may mean that there is great change coming on that day. Whether it be a change in tempetures or some even belive that it may be when some other "being" like an alien or something may come in contact with us. In some of the research i've done in the past also shows that in the vast librarys that they had in there time many of there remains are destroyed, they say that supposetly they had actually written down what it is that was going to happen on that day. But because they haven't ever really found enough pieces to put together to find out everyone just has their theories of whats gonna happen.
Dec 6, 2007 at 12:35 am 
Angie
Angie
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Yes, it was Christians who burned most of Mayan books because they thought they were the product of Satan. I also tend to think that 2012 will not be the end of the world. Mayan calendar is not telling us the world will end, the Mayan calendar simply ends on December 21, 2012.

When Spanish arrived in 1519, The Mayan mistook the event for the second coming of their great leader Kukulkan. This case of mistaken identity resulted in the almost total destruction of Mayan race and culture. The impact of the European conquest of Maya culture was devastating. Within fifty years, 90% of Mayan population was lost. And because of that we don't know much about Mayan culture. The cultural devastation of Mayans arose from the revulsions the Spaniards felt towards Mayan religion and their rituals, including the elongations of infant skulls and emulation of Kukulkan, but the most sinful deed of all in the eyes of Spanish was the practice of human sacrifice by Mayans.

Elongated skull


The point of human sacrifice was that the Mayans believed that the Sun needed sustenance in order to make its passage through the sky and underneath the world as the night’s sun and the way the sun got its sustenance was through human blood. A Spanish bishop, who wrote an account of the Mayan culture, described the typical sacrifice of a victim, who was usually a child, a virgin, a slave, or a prisoner of war. His description was quite graphic because the sacrificial ritual often consisted of the living heart being ripped out of the body. This was done in the large company of people. The victim was laid on a stone and the executioner carved the heart out of the rib cage skillfully with a stone knife. Still living heart was given to Mayan priests who then passed the fresh blood onto their Gods.

Of course, sacrifice and any other similar rituals were deemed by Spanish Christians the work of the devil, so Spanish priests made it their mission to quickly and at any cost convert Mayans to Christianity. The first step to take was to destroy the things of the devil - all of Mayan written records, including codexes and hieroglyphic picture books. There was a massive burning of all Mayan books and all we have left now are four left. Had there not been the burning of those written records, we would know a lot more about Maya astronomy, Maya calendar, Maya prophecy, and general ideology of Mayan civilization.

Some sympathetic Spanish priests managed to salvage 4 Mayan books. Those were later moved to the libraries in Europe. One of them – The Dresden Codex was the main key to understanding Mayan predictions. Some people believe that these manuscripts contain the future history of a mankind and the exact date of its end.

The Kukulkan pyramid in Chichen Itza where a shadow of a dragon can be observed going down the stairs on spring equinox.


Chichen Itza is an ancient Mayan city in the jungles of Mexico Yucatan peninsula.

Dec 6, 2007 at 8:43 am 
Trader
Trader
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Just because something is old or ancient doesn't make it wise or true. A quick walk through a long-term care center will prove that. People are so quick to give the Mayans such respect for being smart and evolved, possessing knowledge beyond their time. I am familiar with their disgusting rituals, and if any civilization were doing this today they would be condemned, but because it happened long ago we can forget about it and just say they were mystical and wise. Angie, you just stated that the Mayans believed that “the Sun needed sustenance in order to make its passage through the sky and underneath the world as the night's sun and the way the sun got its sustenance was through human blood”. If the Mayans believed this, than that is proof that they are not that smart. I think we should thank the Christians for getting rid of as much of this civilization as they did. They were an unevolved civilization, proved so by what they believed and did. Simple logic dictates, therefore, that their writings did not contain anything more than unevolved ideas. People giving the Mayans credit for anything intellectual or good, mistake the mystic for truth when the fact is, the world is a better place for not having that type of society on its soil.

Dec 6, 2007 at 7:56 pm 
Angie
Angie
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You are raiding a very good point there, trader. Very true. Though everything I have written was based on an internet research (and believed to be thorough so I would think it's not far from general knowledge). There's a few things to consider, though:

Imagine thousands of years from now everything is different. So different that I won't be able to describe cause it would be different beyond our comprehension. Let's just simulate a possible scenario. Let's say that thousands years from now people evolve to such a state, that they have the proof Jesus was not a saint, just an ordinary man and entire religions would cease to exits. Kids would be born growing up never hearing of any Gods and anyone speaking of Gods would be considered weird and so backwards.

Now, if in that age some architect would dig up a book from 2007 AD which would have some astronomical findings which we already know now - for example about the pole shifting, or solar explosions, etc. They would look at it and think it was unbelievable that we had such knowledge, but then some other archeologist would find a bible and would serve it as a proof that in 2007 people believed in Gods hence such civilization could never possibly make any decent discovery if they believed in Gods... You see where I'm coming from?

Secondly - because Spaniards destroyed most of Mayan book, all we have left are reported from those Spanish priests. Who now knows for sure how it was. Could it be that there was a blood thirsty person in charge of an army sent across the ocean who just liked to kill people and enjoyed the fact that his army has better weapons and there's more of them? What if that person just went around slaughtering everyone in his path and then to cover up for it he simply had his priests to write some shit up about the tribes in America being savages and performing sacrifices up?

Dec 6, 2007 at 8:15 pm 
Gotthavok
Gotthavok
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pornask wrote:
You have offered the answer yourself - it's not the end of the world we're gonna get in 2012. It's the end of the age. The Age of Pisces will come to an end and the Age of Aquarius will take charge. Zeitgeist is a good movie to get educated in this manner. The first part deals with this


i would take much of that movie with a grain of salt. many of the claims made in it have very little factual backing. it's good to inspire people to think for themselves, but it's really no better than Michael Moore, especially when it comes to many of the religious claims. the only claims in the film i've been able to positively confirm is that the Rockefellers, among others, own the American currency.
Dec 6, 2007 at 8:24 pm 
Trader
Trader
St. Albert
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So, Angie, you're saying that just because they were wrong in one area doesn't mean that we can write them off in every other area? That's a valid point. It doesn't change what I believe about the Mayans and I have nothing else to add to the conversation, except to acknowledge that if I were to pursue my line of reasoning, your argument could present a possible breach in my logic.
Dec 6, 2007 at 8:34 pm 
Angie
Angie
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I myself don't know where I'm standing at on this one. I haven't heard about 2012 and Mayan civilization till recently when Amelia mentioned it. I did some research on it cause I was curious and learned a lot of interesting things. Trust me, I'm the first person in line to look at things with sober mind. I'm not falling for this hype, but I'm not turning my back at it either. I just don't know what to think about it. So I'm observing the facts that we know and trying to put my puzzle together for myself out of this mess. Will the world end? Dang, I don't know, what I know is that it's fantastic to talk to you guys about it. It broadens my horizons and offers brand new perspectives I would have otherwise missed. I find this an interesting topic and I’m glad so many opinions have been shared. That’s all I can say about it. And now I guess, all we can do is wait till December 12, 2012.
Dec 6, 2007 at 8:44 pm 
Dan
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Be aware that this very year, 2007 may be the bone breaker event.

Not 2012, but 2007.

Why is this a possibility ? well the Mayan calender and others all point to a crossing of the galactic equator and a grand conjunction in the skies.

Problem is, this grand conjunction is happening this year, 2007.

My thoughts ? well, have a look at the calender and signs for this to be true that are built into washington itself in the USA.

Street map, obilesks, statues, even buildings positioned to show an event.

That event may be 2007, dec 23 / 24th.


Dec 9, 2007 at 12:43 pm 
Dan
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Oh and Angie, if this isn't bad enough, 2008, June, Cassini is going to be plunged into the south pole of Saturn.
Sounds OK ? well it does until you realise there is a nuclear payload on cassini, and that a group of very dark occultists within the elite 'may' be trying to ignite Saturn.

The projects alledged name ? Project Lucifer.
Dec 9, 2007 at 12:45 pm 
Angie
Angie
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Some very interesting facts, Dan. As I have mentioned above, this whole and of the world in 2012 and Mayan calendar and all was new to me until recently. All I know now I have learned from personal research within last two weeks or so. However, I'm sure I have read about the galactic equator alignment and something is telling me that it was connected with the 2012. I don't recall any mention of 2007. Let me dig more into that see if I can find any further info
Dec 9, 2007 at 2:46 pm 
Dan
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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message471098/pg1

Now, I am not saying it will end in Dec 23/24th 2007, but what i am saying is that with out doubt we are living through a major event in human / celestial history.

We pass through this point and will not return for another 25 and a half thousand years.

Crossing the galatic equator, and all the planets will form a cross in the solar system as look at from above.

So... What ever happens, we will be living through a historic time - even if not many take notice. (unless of course we really do get hammered by the galactic crossing).
Dec 9, 2007 at 4:03 pm 
Gotthavok
Gotthavok
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here's an interesting fact concerning your prediction of a major event happening roughly around christmas

Benazir Bhutto's assassination was the 27th, causing a major upheaval in Pakistan. for those who don't know, Pakistan is a nuclear power that had been steadily declining into a state of martial control. i'm interested to see how that pans out. it's only been a week
Jan 5, 2008 at 6:53 pm 
Angie
Angie
Calgary
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Here's the Benazir Bhutto Information with Assassination Videos for those who haven't stumbled upon it yet.

Gotthavok - fill me in a little more on connection between Benazir Bhutto Assassination and possible end of the world in 2012. Do you think that Pakistan's unstable situation could escalate to the point that someone will flip the switch releasing their nuclear power?
Jan 5, 2008 at 7:26 pm 
Gotthavok
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i think it is very likely that the current situation leaves the world in a very precarious position, nuclear weapons without checks and balances are a very scary thing and the situation there could erode those checks and balances very quickly if it degrades

plus a lot of the possible reasoning for the killing has me worried



Jan 5, 2008 at 11:09 pm 
Angie
Angie
Calgary
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What's wrong with Benazir Bhutto's eyes?
Jan 6, 2008 at 9:45 am 
Raziel
Raziel
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anamaria wrote:
Poles Will Shift in 2012

The Earth is protected from Sun’s radiations by the magnetic field that surrounds it. The North and the South poles of the Earth Swap places every 750 thousands years or so. When pole swapping occurs, the magnetic field disappears often for as long as hundred years exposing the planet to the radiation of the Sun that is so strong it will burn the skin crisp in seconds. Right now, the pole swapping is overdue about 30 000 years from its usual pattern. However, scientists are noticing that the poles are starting to shift faster and faster, moving about 25 kilometers every year, which is much faster than has ever been recorded before. This is likely a sign of the pole shift coming very, very soon. Scientists are estimating that the pole shift will take place in… you guessed it – year 2012.

Yeah, that's the one that's had me worried for a few years now. I honestly think that if there is going to be some kind of catastrophic natural event that causes the decline on humanity, this is most likely to be it. Personally, I find the Mayans fascinating, purely on a level of their scientific understanding of the world and the universe around them given the tools that they would have been using at the time.... completely incredible, really, when you think about it.

I suspect there was probably some kind of link between the Mayans and the Atlanteans though, and it would certainly make sense to look at their calendar alone bearing that concept in mind. I'd love to learn the ancient Mayan language and study their remaining texts properly to gain a fuller understanding, the same way devout christians should really learn Aramaic and study the Dead Sea Scrolls to truly understand the true message and grasp the nuances of the language and infer the proper meanings from the individual words.
Jan 10, 2008 at 6:30 am 
Melicious
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What will happen will just happen. We have no control over it in the least. I am a big Rush fan though.....and they have an album called 2112....hmmmm.....Lots of ones and twos. And one and two add up to three which is represented in many cultures as some kind of "magic number".

Some things are just not meant to be known.....like when the world is going to end. It would take out all the surprise in life.
Jan 21, 2008 at 11:26 am 
greasyb
greasyb
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pothead wrote:
Mayan and Aztec calendars are certainly not the only ones predicting the end of the world in 2012. I-Ching, an old Chinese book of changes predicts the end of the world for the same very date - December 21, 2012, the solstice day.

Whether anything happens on that day, I do not know. there's been so many end of the world predictions already and nothing came out of it eventually, that i remain skeptic through these new ones just as well. I know what I will be doing on December 21, 2012. I will get plastered, stoned the fuck out of and will wake up with terrible headache on December 22, 2012.


haha yeah i second that.
Apr 7, 2008 at 3:35 pm 
UltimateSin
UltimateSin
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Maya callendar does end in 2012. The maya are unique in that they did calculate correctly that the Earth was round that the universe went in a circle some of the planets and accurately predicted the seaons months and years. All this from a primitive society. Alot of crop circles are the same drawings found in milan art. Very very werid. The crop circles could be fake. Still it sure is unsetlling to think if there is a connection. 2012 is only 4 years away we will find out then.

Check this video out if you want to have something to wonder about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-5QMiUBqFs
Apr 7, 2008 at 7:53 pm 
greasyb
greasyb
Cleveland Ohio
Age: 25
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meh
Apr 7, 2008 at 7:58 pm 
joltek
joltek
Red Deer
Age: 29
Posts: 90
I may be wrong but I thought the world is suppose to end on 2023.
Apr 7, 2008 at 8:31 pm 
Paulie
Paulie
Edmonton
Age: 21
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There are a lot of theories as to when the world will end, but the closest date is 2012 on the Mayan Calender, which I believe translates to 2008 on ours. Or not, I'm not sure. It was something I was told a while back.
Apr 7, 2008 at 9:03 pm 
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