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M4rk
M4rk
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I am thrilled that Sarah Palin was picked!!!
Watching the announcement of the running mate made me so excited!!!

I think it's funny how Obama was quick to talk shit about small town America. (her town only has around 9,000 people in it)

Sarah Palin doesn't have much experience, but she does have more than Obama!

In her national debut, she came off quite well!

Sarah Palin is very conservative, which will only help get more Republicans to vote for McCain. She's pro-life and is a member of the NRA. She opposes same-sex marriage, but she has stated that she has gay friends and is receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination.

Personal life: Sarah Palin has been married for 20 years today. She has 5 children. Youngest being born in April (with Downs Syndrome), 3 girls, and the oldest son deploying to Iraq next month. She is always quoted as being a, "Hockey Mom".

In 1984, Sarah Palin was the runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant.

Sarah Palin admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, but says that she did not like it.. haha!


here is a picture of Sarah Palin when she was on Vogue:














Aug 29, 2008 at 11:06 am 
Melicious
Melicious
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I'm not trying to undermine this Mrs. Sarah Palin's abilities and acheivements by this next comment, just to put that forward, BUT........

Sarah Palin as his pick was purely strategic on McCain's part and it's so OBVIOUS that I can't believe that he thinks the American public is really this stupid. Unfortunately, some are though.

By picking Sarah Palin, it's the perfect return to Obama passing over Hillary. Here are the bullet points:

1. Sarah Palin is a woman (he's got the Woman Vote!)
2. Sarah Palin is married to a Steel Worker's Union Member (he's got the middle class working man vote!)
3. Sarah Palin's husband works in oil....ummm...didn't we already have someone that worked in oil in office? ahem...Bush....ahem. (This is not a necessarily a plus though...McCain loses the Environmental Vote yet gains the Big Oil and Other Big Business vote)
4. Sarah Palin's husband is a life long Alaskan fisherman (Gains not only more of the working class vote, but also the fish companies out there that want to keep over fishing)
5. Sarah Palin's son is in the military (McCain's got the military vote and anyone whose son is over there)

About the only vote he tried to win over was the minorities with this little pick. McCain even mentioned how woman's sufferage was rewarded this week in history before he introduced Sarah Palin. Work it...work it......

McCain is one smart son of a bitch man, either that or someone that works for him is. This guy may just get in....then again I don't like either of them, but I would pick Obama as the lesser of the two evils.
Aug 29, 2008 at 11:39 am 
pothead
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Fort McMurray
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Jenna wrote:

Sarah Palin pic



Oh dear lord... holy shit... OMG... I mean wow... What... holy shit... what incredibly sexy MILF... and the fucking glasses

PS - what shit did Obama talk about small town America (sorry, I don't keep that close with pre election situation south of the border)

Sarah Palin is damn hot
Aug 29, 2008 at 11:50 am 
M4rk
M4rk
Edmonton
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of course picking Sarah Palin would be strategic.

and with all of this working for him.. ANDDDDD Sarah Palin being a great choice for VP.. why WOULDN'T he pick Sarah Palin?

i am definitely looking forward to knowing a lot more about her.

but Sarah Palin.. alone.. already seems like a great person to help run our country.


i doubt that the ONLY reason he picked Sarah Palin was so that he wins.
McCain has to pick someone that not only appeals to americans.. but who would make a great vp.

Aug 29, 2008 at 11:54 am 
Angie
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Calgary
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So fill me in regarding Sarah Palin. What exactly is VP? Is it Vice President? If so, why do candidates choose vice presidents before they're presidents?

What exactly is the role of a VP in presidential race (and post presidential race)?
Aug 29, 2008 at 11:57 am 
Melicious
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Angie wrote:
So fill me in. What exactly is VP? Is it Vice President? If so, why do candidates choose vice presidents before they're presidents?

What exactly is the role of a VP in presidential race (and post presidential race)?
People can go with a certain pick based upon who they pick for V.P. Let's say they don't necessarily like McCain, but they like this Sarah Palin. They may believe that Sarah Palin will influence him positively. The thing is....that once the president gets in to office, you never hear another word about the V.P. (unless they shoot a buddy thinking he's a quail or go in for surgery). VPs have NO influence. The only thing VPs are there to do is take the president's place if the president dies.

It's sad really. Sarah Palin doesn't sound like a bad person. A bit too right wing for me though. I mean pro life? Against same sex marriage? Who is Sarah Palin to tell me what to do dammit.
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:01 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
Edmonton
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Posts: 1160
Angie wrote:
So fill me in. What exactly is VP? Is it Vice President? If so, why do candidates choose vice presidents before they're presidents?

What exactly is the role of a VP in presidential race (and post presidential race)?



Yes, VP is Vice President.

They pick the Vice President as their running mate before they're elected.

Sometimes this choice greatly changes who Americans will vote for in the election.

The VP plays a major role because, of course, if something happens to the President.. the VP is the new President.

The VP is also the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate.


Aug 29, 2008 at 12:01 pm 
DarkDream
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Melicious wrote:
I don't like either of them, but I would pick Obama as the lesser of the two evils.


I don't like either of them either, but to me McCain is the lesser of two evil. And the reason being - if Barack Obama wasn't black, he'd never make it this far. His utter incompetence, inconsistence and incoherence in everything he says and does are ridiculous. No one this incompetent would ever make it this far in presidential race (I mean sorry, forgot to take George Bush into account) but seriously, had Barack Obama not been black, he'd be left to his smarts and wises which are non existent hence he would be doomed to grace the bottom of the list. And now America is doomed.
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:04 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
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Melicious wrote:


It's sad really. She doesn't sound like a bad person. A bit too right wing for me though. I mean pro life? Against same sex marriage? Who is she to tell me what to do dammit.


I like how she states that she is, "receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination." Whatever that may mean. lol
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:04 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
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DarkDream wrote:
And now America is doomed.


dun dun dunnnn!!!!!
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:05 pm 
Angie
Angie
Calgary
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Just find it kind of funny that you're not a president yet, but you already have a vice president....
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:08 pm 
pothead
pothead
Fort McMurray
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Sarah Palin is one damn hot MILF. If I were an American, I'd vote McCain just cause he chose such a sexy beast for VP.
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:13 pm 
Scooter
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MI
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Angie wrote:
So fill me in. What exactly is VP? Is it Vice President? If so, why do candidates choose vice presidents before they're presidents?

What exactly is the role of a VP in presidential race (and post presidential race)?


Yes, VP = Vice President

A VPs role post election is to fill in for the president if he becomes incapacitated or unfit for the job for some reason. (if the senate had voted to impeach Clinton like congress did, Gore would have taken over as president)

A VPs role in a campaign is to help strengthen the presidential ticket. Obama picked Biden because of Biden's foreign policy experience since Obama has none. And Palin definitely strengthens the McCain ticket because Palin is an outsider (amongst other things) whereas McCain is viewed as a policy wonk due to being in the senate and government for decades. She will also no-doubt take away some Obama votes because almost half of democratic voters wanted Hillary as the candidate.

It's been a very interesting election so far. Unfortunately I don't like either candidate because they are both socialists who want a bigger government. I, personally, would have preferred Ron Paul because he is a strict Constitutionalist and wants gov't as far removed from our lives as possible. From a financial standpoint, Paul would have also tried to dissolve the Federal Reserve which many argue has gotten us into this financial crunch we're in.

**EDIT** What Jenna and Mel said.

**EDIT #2** The VP can be EXTREMELY influential, but as stated above is rarely heard from after the election. Dick Cheney is by far way more powerful than Bush and many believe (me included) that Bush is merely Cheney's puppet.
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:20 pm 
Angie
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Thanks for explaining, you guys

Ron Paul was one I liked too. He just seemed overall right.
Aug 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm 
Max
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I met McCain in a private group meeting 2 months ago (like 10 people).

I told him I voted Ron Paul in the primary, and if he wanted to cinch the election he needed to make Ron Paul his VP (and bring over the 18 million popular votes he gathered on a grass roots campaign).

Let's just say he was less than receptive to the idea.

If McCain loses, it's his own fault.
Aug 29, 2008 at 1:24 pm 
Angie
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Oddly enough, before Republican candidate was chosen. Everyone I'd know, both American and non American liked Ron Paul. And from among Americans, he seemed to have been favorited by both Republicans and Democrats. He seemed like a clear choice and then bam, and he was out of the race overnight.
Aug 29, 2008 at 1:45 pm 
Scooter
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Angie wrote:
Oddly enough, before Republican candidate was chosen. Everyone I'd know, both American and non American liked Ron Paul. And from among Americans, he seemed to have been favorited by both Republicans and Democrats. He seemed like a clear choice and then bam, and he was out of the race overnight.


The leadership of both parties is very powerful and don't like renegades like Ron Paul. Paul would have reduced gov't (or tried anyway) and that means less job security for those in power. It's sadly just became a shell-game between the two parties. Under shell one is a socialist and under shell 2 is a slightly more socialist. Both parties have become one in the same.

I continue to hope and pray for another Tea Party.
Aug 29, 2008 at 1:48 pm 
Rocketman
Rocketman
Calgary
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damn, shes hot
Looks like her kids eat too much
Aug 29, 2008 at 1:51 pm 
Caltaz
Caltaz
USA
Age: 40
Posts: 1208
Rocketman wrote:
Looks like her kids eat too much


That is harsh.
Aug 29, 2008 at 2:42 pm 
anamaria
anamaria
Calgary
Age: 22
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Rocketman wrote:

Looks like her kids eat too much


They look OK to me. One of the kids suffers from down syndrome. Guess she was lucky Barack Obama wasn't there when she was born. He'd have her killed.
Aug 29, 2008 at 2:46 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
Edmonton
Age: 25
Posts: 1160
Rocketman wrote:
damn, shes hot
Looks like her kids eat too much


wow.

no wonder girls starve themselves.

guys like you.
Aug 29, 2008 at 3:51 pm 
FergusMaximus
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I like girls with a few extra pounds, nothing wrong with that.
Aug 29, 2008 at 5:04 pm 
Melicious
Melicious
Los Angeles
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Max wrote:
I met McCain in a private group meeting 2 months ago (like 10 people).

I told him I voted Ron Paul in the primary, and if he wanted to cinch the election he needed to make Ron Paul his VP (and bring over the 18 million popular votes he gathered on a grass roots campaign).

Let's just say he was less than receptive to the idea.

If McCain loses, it's his own fault.
I voted Ron Paul. Plain and simple, he was the most intelligent of the lot that had an actual plan in place, not just lip service. These other guys will talk about what the country needs, but in reality once they're in it's all special interest. None of which involves the common citizen of America.

I view Obama as being the lesser of the two evils for one reason only. McCain will only continue to run the country in the same direction as Bush did. Think of him as the Bush extension. Obama may not have much experience (and believe me I don't agree with all of his views and I agree that he's green), but think about it. Bush did such a horrible job that even a monkey could do a better job and seeing how Obama has more smarts than at least a monkey, our chances are much better with him.
Aug 29, 2008 at 8:21 pm 
Melicious
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scootzer wrote:
Angie wrote:
Oddly enough, before Republican candidate was chosen. Everyone I'd know, both American and non American liked Ron Paul. And from among Americans, he seemed to have been favorited by both Republicans and Democrats. He seemed like a clear choice and then bam, and he was out of the race overnight.


The leadership of both parties is very powerful and don't like renegades like Ron Paul. Paul would have reduced gov't (or tried anyway) and that means less job security for those in power. It's sadly just became a shell-game between the two parties. Under shell one is a socialist and under shell 2 is a slightly more socialist. Both parties have become one in the same.

I continue to hope and pray for another Tea Party.
I don't know why you keep saying Socialist. That's not the way Socialism works. Socialism gives back to their citizens after they take their money (taxes). In health care, PROPER education, job services....you name it. Not like our government that just takes the money (taxes) and complains that they need more while we pay for our own health care, PROPER education and job services. There is a horrible mis-conception in America that Socialism is bad. Well I don't see Switzerland, Ireland, Britain, Canada or any of the other socialized based countries in the same deep shit we are in thank you.

Mis-information brought on by a government that wants to retain their power by keeping the public dumb and their pockets stuffed.
Aug 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm 
Death
Death
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I don't like the fact how Obama gets unfairly more coverage than McCain. You can't turn on to any US programme without hearing some pro Obama speech from the host. Even international media seem to be biased towards Obama giving McCain less coverage and only if they can be negative or at best - neutral. What's up with that blatant favoritism?
Aug 29, 2008 at 10:32 pm 
Scooter
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MI
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Melicious wrote:


I don't know why you keep saying Socialist. That's not the way Socialism works. Socialism gives back to their citizens after they take their money (taxes). In health care, PROPER education, job services....you name it. Not like our government that just takes the money (taxes) and complains that they need more while we pay for our own health care, PROPER education and job services. There is a horrible mis-conception in America that Socialism is bad. Well I don't see Switzerland, Ireland, Britain, Canada or any of the other socialized based countries in the same deep shit we are in thank you.

Mis-information brought on by a government that wants to retain their power by keeping the public dumb and their pockets stuffed.


I call it socialism because that's what it is. Anytime Peter is robbed to pay Paul, it's socialism and I want nothing of it. For every $100 I EARN I pay Uncle Sam $35 and get back AT BEST $5-$10 in benefits. No thanks, I can spend my money far more efficiently than the government ever can or will.

If you own a small business you owe it to your business and yourself to take a very close look at Obama's tax plan. Obama is not a friend to small business which means he's not a friend of mine.

I am far far from a McCain fan. He's part of the Big Government Gang, much like Obama, but I have to say from what I read of Palin I am a little bit closer to voting McCain than yesterday. I like that he picked an outsider. I'm shocked that he did, really. That's so unlike McCain who is part of the Good 'ol Boys Club.

I could talk politics all night but I gotta get up early and head to the water park so g'night for now.
Aug 29, 2008 at 11:08 pm 
Max
Max
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Because I work harder, longer, and better than others, I get to pay not only more, but at a much higher percentage. Screw that. I've never taken unemployment, welfare, social security or anything - even when I was below the poverty line. Now I get to bleed green into the government coffers so they can give it away to illegals, crackheads, and morons that suck at life and have no motivation to get off their ass because everything is handed to them straight out of my pocket.

"Income Tax" was only invented 100 years ago, and by definition was not to tax wages, but corporate profits. Now its a tool of liberals and big Govt. types to create a tiny group of ultra-rich way above Scootzer and I, and the rest of the masses to wait for their handout (easier to manipulate that way, you know!).

Flat tax, no right-offs or shelters for anyone or any business is the only way it's even close to 'fair' if they're going to continue taxing living wages. Steve Forbes' 17% would be preferable to the 'progressive' robbery I already face.

The liberal attitude that because of my success I owe it to pay for Laquisha's 14 crack babies, or Susie's free Planned Parenthood baby murder are the reasons I will never vote liberal.

The founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew what sniveling, evil, 'entitled' pieces of socialist crap most of this country has become.

Bring on Tea Party II...
Aug 30, 2008 at 3:35 am 
Wannabe
Wannabe
Antarctica
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300 million people live in the USA and you ended up with John McCain or Barack Obama as two final presidential candidates. I don't envy you one bit for having to choose between those two. Damn....
Aug 30, 2008 at 5:09 pm 
YellowFrog
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Vegreville
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Yep, I agree. Very hard to choose if your two choices are either senile old fool or a complete moron.
Aug 30, 2008 at 5:12 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
Edmonton
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it sucks because by the time voting got to ohio.. mccain was already picked as the nominee.


Aug 30, 2008 at 5:13 pm 
pothead
pothead
Fort McMurray
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Yeah, definitely a tough decision for our friends down south. I wouldn't be surprised if historically fewest citizens participated in voting. Cause really, one way or another, it's fucked...
Aug 30, 2008 at 6:49 pm 
Melicious
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All I know is that Sweden only pays 5% more out of their paychecks for taxes than we do and they're ALL covered from cradle to grave. If you take our taxes and add on what we pay out of pocket for medical, education, funeral costs...you name it, we are paying more and getting less. I'm not talking Susie crackhead, I'm talking US. The people that do work. Those countries don't capitalize on their working class. People say "Their government has control of their paychecks!" Have you looked at yours lately? At least their governments provide services to EVERYONE instead of here in America where they take from the middle class, give to the poor (but only put a band aid on it, not fix the problems of the poor) and leave the rich alone. Susie crackhead in those other countries would be made sterile so that she didn't have more babies or taken in to a rehab by force and monitored. But no....here it's considered "Politically Incorrect". I don't like giving my hard earned cash to people that I don't believe deserve it either, but I also would like it to come back to me in some way, shape or form. No matter who you are in some of those countries you get your fair share. Not just when you are poor and a crackhead. Here...nope. Nothing, zilch, nada. Nothing to show for our taxes. And here is where it goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0FJhOMc-vA
Aug 30, 2008 at 6:57 pm 
pothead
pothead
Fort McMurray
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Damn that video nailed it pretty hard. But I guess that's not only the US. It's the same in Canada and most (all) other countries. It's be beyond gullible to think that any government is there to kill themselves working for their citizen...
Aug 30, 2008 at 7:11 pm 
Ciera
Ciera
Phoenix, AZ
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Palin's got her a pregnancy scandal!

http://alaskapodshow.com/index.php/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-pregnancy-scandal/
Aug 30, 2008 at 11:06 pm 
M4rk
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Aug 31, 2008 at 5:27 pm 
Jason
Jason
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That Vogue picture isn't so great. But yeah, before she got picked, the only thing I knew was that Alaska had a hot governor. She's definitely hot.

I hate how politicians talk about "experience" when running for president. Abraham Lincoln only served 1 term (2 years) in the House of Representatives. Hardly ANY political experience and he had to lead the US through the Civil War.
Aug 31, 2008 at 5:46 pm 
M4rk
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so the rumor was that the down syndrome baby was really the young daughters and not the moms.. but that turned out to be untrue.

well, it'd have to be untrue because she just announced that her 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant!

the baby was born in april. unless she got pregnant again right away. which i doubt.

damnit, i don't know.
Sep 1, 2008 at 3:22 pm 
Ciera
Ciera
Phoenix, AZ
Age: 23
Posts: 63
Jenna wrote:
so the rumor was that the down syndrome baby was really the young daughters and not the moms.. but that turned out to be untrue.

well, it'd have to be untrue because she just announced that her 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant!

the baby was born in april. unless she got pregnant again right away. which i doubt.

damnit, i don't know.


It is possible. My friend got pregnant about four weeks after giving birth to her daughter. It's not likely, BUT.

Either way, this is kinda hilarious. I think this will hurt her campaign. :-O

C.
Sep 1, 2008 at 4:14 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
Edmonton
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Ciera wrote:


It is possible. My friend got pregnant about four weeks after giving birth to her daughter. It's not likely, BUT.

Either way, this is kinda hilarious. I think this will hurt her campaign. :-O

C.


oh yeah!! definitely!!!

bums me out
Sep 1, 2008 at 4:27 pm 
Angie
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Calgary
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I'm not surprised Odrama and his supporters would initiate rumors as part of their dirty tactics to win the elections.
Sep 1, 2008 at 4:40 pm 
Ciera
Ciera
Phoenix, AZ
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Posts: 63
If you're talking about me, Angie, I'm not really an Obama supporter. I just thought this whole thing was great because Palin is a religious right wing nut who preaches abstinence only education, is VERY PL, and is for religion in the government. Not to mention that she's essentially a glorified mayor with even less experience than Obama.

I'm not cool with any of this, obviously.

If it's her business to get into other women's reproductive systems, then I think it's fair to look into hers. And if she's lying, then she's a hypocrite and she should step down. If her daughter is pregnant, then she needs to take a good hard look at the education she's promoting and evaluate how and why it isn't working.

C.
Sep 1, 2008 at 5:23 pm 
Scooter
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MI
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I don't think it will hurt the campaign one bit. In fact I think the situation really hits home with an increasingly large block of voters: single moms.


Sep 1, 2008 at 5:24 pm 
Angie
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Wasn't talking about you at all. Somebody somewhere initiated that rumor and it was being discussed all over the web. That whole political backstabbing gets out of hand. It almost looks like the chances of winning are not based on what you can do, but how much crap you can dig out about your opponent. I wish high rank politicians competed for the vote by saying - I can do this really well, rather than - he totally sucks at this.
Sep 1, 2008 at 5:28 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
Edmonton
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sarah palin made an official statement saying that her daughter is 5 months pregnant.

that's not a rumor.


just stating that in case there is any confusion

Sep 1, 2008 at 5:36 pm 
M4rk
M4rk
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scootzer wrote:
I don't think it will hurt the campaign one bit. In fact I think the situation really hits home with an increasingly large block of voters: single moms.



you're right!
it's probably about 50/50

i've been watching the news and seeing very mixed emotions on it!
Sep 1, 2008 at 5:37 pm 
anamaria
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If her daughter was pregnant at 16 and gave birth, that should give her extra brownie points anyway. If Sarah Palin is a pro lifer and the child would be born rather than aborted since the mother was a teenager, it would only prove she's serious about her pro life stance.

Just saying - kind of rhetorical question. Why was everyone thinking that if her 16 year old daughter gave birth that it would drop her rating? Doesn't make sense to me.
Sep 1, 2008 at 5:41 pm 
Ciera
Ciera
Phoenix, AZ
Age: 23
Posts: 63
Angie wrote:
Wasn't talking about you at all. Somebody somewhere initiated that rumor and it was being discussed all over the web. That whole political backstabbing gets out of hand. It almost looks like the chances of winning are not based on what you can do, but how much crap you can dig out about your opponent. I wish high rank politicians competed for the vote by saying - I can do this really well, rather than - he totally sucks at this.


Just makin' sure. :-)

I agree with you here. It's more about choosing the politician with fewer skeletons in his closet than choosing the one best suited for the job. It's disgusting.
Sep 1, 2008 at 5:42 pm 
Ciera
Ciera
Phoenix, AZ
Age: 23
Posts: 63
anamaria wrote:
If her daughter was pregnant at 16 and gave birth, that should give her extra brownie points anyway. If Sarah Palin is a pro lifer and the child would be born rather than aborted since the mother was a teenager, it would only prove she's serious about her pro life stance.

Just saying - kind of rhetorical question. Why was everyone thinking that if her 16 year old daughter gave birth that it would drop her rating? Doesn't make sense to me.


Only because that when you're running for office everything you do, everything your family does, is put under the microscope. Generally, getting pregnant out of wedlock at 16 isn't something desirable, especially when mom is running for VP. And since Palin has been advocating abstinence only programs in schools, she essentially must look at changing her policy.... or come off looking like a tard.

I'm glad she didn't make her get an abortion too, for a couple of reasons. One, I don't like abortion, two, I think the girl should decide (not her mom), and three if it ever got out, Palin would probably lose all credibility.




Sep 1, 2008 at 5:47 pm 
Scooter
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Jenna wrote:
scootzer wrote:
I don't think it will hurt the campaign one bit. In fact I think the situation really hits home with an increasingly large block of voters: single moms.



you're right!
it's probably about 50/50

i've been watching the news and seeing very mixed emotions on it!


Entrenched Republicans will vote for McCain/Palin and entrenched Democrats will vote for Obama/Biden. Most elections are won (or lost) with the undecided voter.

So the question is twofold:

1) who are the majority of undecided voters?
2) who will they like better? McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden?

I think it's relatively safe to answer that there are a lot of undecided voters who wanted Hillary to win. They know Hillary had to tow the party line and bite her tongue when she was praising Obama. I suspect a significant portion of the Hillary followers will bite the bullet and vote McCain because they absolutely hate Obama's camp. These people believe in their heart of hearts that Hillary was robbed. Maybe she was, I don't know. But a large bloc of them believe so.

McCain is crafty. He's a seasoned politician and that's why Obama had to pick a somewhat equally crafty and seasoned politician in Biden. Obama had no choice. McCain knew exactly what he was doing with his pick. He knew Palin's daughter was pregnant and no doubt thought through the pros and cons of choosing her. This has all been carefully planned. McCain has run many successful campaigns in his career and he is the next Chosen One, for this I have no doubt.

My prediction, even though I'd much prefer Ron Paul, is McCain wins by a large margin.
Sep 1, 2008 at 6:05 pm 
Chocolate
Chocolate
Edmonton
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I'm surprised you think that. Most portals on the web make it sound as though Obama had a win up his pocket easy. I don't follow US election closely and when i do encounter something related to it, it always kind of sounds as though Obama was a sure win.

But then again someone correctly mention earlier in the thread that Obama gets way more positive coverage than McCain. McCain gets way less and it's mostly either neutral or negative. Where as Barack Obama supporters are like hypnotized or something - must help Obama or else the Satan himself will strike me with his mighty fist.
Sep 1, 2008 at 6:17 pm 
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