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Brock Lesnar Owned by Frank Mir in UFC 81 (pic)

pornask
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Brock Lesnar is a monster of a dude, but in UFC, size means shit. UFC 81 fight between Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir is the proof of that. It also showed that being big because of excessive steriod use doesn't guarantee you nothing, not in UFC fights.

Brock Lesnar came to the UFC from wrestling, for which he has my utmost respect. He abandoned a joke and joined real sport. However in UFC all punches are real and it's likely Brock Lesnar's never even heard of a leg lock. When Frank Mir got him leg locked, Brock Lesnar tapped out. Most likely out of sheer surprise, cause the lock itself wasn't that strong. He likely panicked because in real fight (not WWE staged bullshit) your leg could actually break. So he ended the fight as soon as there was a sign of possible harm to his girly legs (BTW, did you notice how girly his legs are, totally unproportianate compared to the size of his monstrous upper body). Well, Brock Lesnar.... welcome the the world of real fights. Much respect for you though for moving on to UFC from WWE.

The highlight of UFC 81 were all those blank stares on faces of the WWE guys whose egos went right down the pooper after Brock Lesnar lost the fight. I can only imagine how full of shit their roid pumped mouth would get should he win - they would be like... yeah baby, WWE for realz, baby.

Brazilian jiu-jitsu once again proves to be as strong as ever.
Feb 3, 2008 at 11:12 am 
Lampwick
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pornask wrote:
So he ended the fight as soon as there was a sign of possible harm to his girly legs (BTW, did you notice how girly his legs are, totally unproportianate compared to the size of his monstrous upper body).


Thats funny, because thats what I thought the first time I saw him in K1.
Feb 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm 
Angie
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Maybe WWE jocks should just stick to their little game of WWE and leave UFC for real men.
Feb 3, 2008 at 3:10 pm 
pornask
pornask
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As much as I don't like WWE and take every opportunity to mock that joke, I mave utmost respect for Brock Lesnar for trying to move on to the real fights at UFC. He was over Frank Mir big time and still could be a major threat for many fighters, but obviously he lacks in a few areas he will need to practice more - particularly submission defense. He taped out, but he had potential. Obviously he hasn't had much experience with being in a real hook (or having one pulled at him). The guy is a monster and could still do well. But with mixed martial arts you need to have mixed skills. His lack in on-the-floor jiu jitsu cost him this fight. Much respect though for leaving the theater for kids and joining the real men

And congrats to Frank Mir.
Feb 3, 2008 at 3:16 pm 
delicon
delicon
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Brock Lesnar comes from strong wrestling background. He left WWE back in 2004 so he's been out of the joke game for a good while. He's ready to be the real fighter and we're gonna hear from him yet. Don't take any crap from Frank Mir though. He's not an accidental winner. Heís master of submission and hook ups. He won over big guys many a time with his deadly hooks. He even broke Tim Sylvia's arm, leaving him look like an ass in the octagon (if you didn't watch it, Tim Sylvia lost his fight to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira by submission in the 3rd round). That was tough fight for Brock Lesnar but that guy has potential.
Feb 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm 
Angie
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delicon wrote:
Don't take any crap from Frank Mir though. He's not an accidental winner. Heís master of submission and hook ups.


Very true. Frank Mir is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and is well regarded for his submission skills with fighters twice as big as himself. He didn't win the UFC title because of a motorcycle crash that prevented him from fighting, not because he lost to another mixed martial arts fighter. Frank Mir is the real deal. What Brock Lesnar and his team failed to realize is that they are throwing him to the wolves in his first real fight in the octagon. Frank Mir is a dangerous fighter. This was a good lesson for Brock Lesnar - do not underestimate other fighters just because they don't hold a title.

That being said, Brock Lesnar lost his fight to a very good fighter. However he showed he has much potential and there's a lot to look forward to. He put on a good fight against another good fighter. He's a great addition to the UFC fighter list.

Feb 3, 2008 at 5:01 pm 
Tender
Tender
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I felt sorry for Brock Lesnar. When I first learned he came from WWE pro wrestling I had the lowest possible regard for him, but after I saw the fight I really started to respect the guy. He's gonna be a great UFC fighter, he was just thrown into it with little experience and it didn't work for him, but Brock has tremendous potential. I root for him too. I think he could have gotten out of that leg lock, he just didn't have any experience with anything like this.

PS - I really felt sorry for Brock Lesnar when host went to talk to him in the octagon and the audience booed him. That was silly. He did put on a good fight and it's sad they didn't appreciate it. Congrats to Frank Mir.
Feb 4, 2008 at 12:33 am 
delicon
delicon
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=P2muCVKGcYE

that's a video of Brock Lesnar vs Frank Mir fight. YouTube will remove it soon, if you haven't seen it on Saturday, go and watch it. It was a good damn fight
Feb 4, 2008 at 7:56 pm 
denny2729
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The reason Brock lost the fight was due to the fact that he did not seek out the right coaches and trainers for the UFC. I watched his training and not once did I see him practice submission defence or sparring. I mean real "Chuck Liddell" type sparring. Big mistake.That explains the lack of elbows and straight punches thrown. What I saw was a combination of hammer punches that did little more than bloody Mir.He also took Mir too lightly. Mir still has good days in front of him. If Brock seeks out the right help, I think he will dominate this division. The man moves like a light heavywieght, and he was right when he said the division needs a real champion. I am tired of seeing guys like Tim Silvia (glad he lost) doing only enough to get the W in big fights. The UFC will only grow with lesnar in it. I really feel sorry for all the heavywieghts when he matures as a fighter. Congrats to Mir. His career needed the W.
Feb 4, 2008 at 9:05 pm 
delicon
delicon
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Brock Lesnar actually gained my respect after this fight. I may feel different had he won, cause he would probably jump around like a monkey on speed just the way you would see him at WWE. Now that he lost, you could tell he has a real genuine drive and wants to be a good fighter. He was not ready for this fight. he was not, but it taught him well and he's gonna do better next time around. Brock Lesnar's time will come and he will show them what he can do. I'm rooting for him now. He's not just a stupid riod pumped wrestling entertainer. He's a fighter. And a good one.

And youíre right, most of the time he didnít know what to do to deliver proper damage. Hammering Franck Mir on the floor did zero damage to him. He needs good teacher and then heíll be deadly.
Feb 4, 2008 at 9:13 pm 
Moody
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Ok... I hate people who post " His ass got owned " threads about UFC..

If you saw the fight, Lesnar owned the first 90 Secs. Mir even said that being quoted as saying " ...He is a beast, the firs Min. and a half he beat the hell out of me..." Lesnar is new to MMA. he did what most guys do when they are new, they over rate the strength of their legs.

Most Fighters start their carrer saying that no one can get them in a leg lock or knee bar because their legs are just that strong. Dana White said Lesnar made the Impact that he wanted.. Dana was quoted saying "... He is new and he fucked up. But did you see the first 90 secs.? I think Lesnar will do good here..."

Out of every one in WWE/TNA Lesnar is probly going to be the only one to go over to MMA that will stand a fighting chance. Give him a few months and he will be able to guard his legs better. when he does that, he will be a beast.
Mar 24, 2008 at 12:28 pm 
Tender
Tender
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I think that was the general conclusion we came to in the end. Brock Lesnar is gonna do good. He's passionate and has the potential. He underestimated his opponent mostly because he doesn't have enough mixed martial art's fighting experience, but he's just gonna get better and better from now on. We'll hear from Brock Lesnar yet
Mar 24, 2008 at 12:38 pm 
shawnlove
shawnlove
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pornask wrote:


Brock Lesnar is a monster of a dude, but in UFC, size means shit. UFC 81 fight between Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir is the proof of that. It also showed that being big because of excessive steriod use doesn't guarantee you nothing, not in UFC fights.

Brock Lesnar came to the UFC from wrestling, for which he has my utmost respect. He abandoned a joke and joined real sport. However in UFC all punches are real and it's likely Brock Lesnar's never even heard of a leg lock. When Frank Mir got him leg locked, Brock Lesnar tapped out. Most likely out of sheer surprise, cause the lock itself wasn't that strong. He likely panicked because in real fight (not WWE staged bullshit) your leg could actually break. So he ended the fight as soon as there was a sign of possible harm to his girly legs (BTW, did you notice how girly his legs are, totally unproportianate compared to the size of his monstrous upper body). Well, Brock Lesnar.... welcome the the world of real fights. Much respect for you though for moving on to UFC from WWE.

The highlight of UFC 81 were all those blank stares on faces of the WWE guys whose egos went right down the pooper after Brock Lesnar lost the fight. I can only imagine how full of shit their roid pumped mouth would get should he win - they would be like... yeah baby, WWE for realz, baby.

Brazilian jiu-jitsu once again proves to be as strong as ever.


Believe me Pornask, that leg lock in the picture is painful and will make one tap out. It wont break your ankle but it can surely tear the ligaments. I teach Silat and we have tons of locks like that, they hurt like hell.

YOu are also right as far as being a big guy is not everything. What counts in a one on one fight is conditioining, grappling technique, the ability to box and counter a Thai kick, and most of all heart (guts). On the ground you can't beat Jiu-jitsu at least at this point in time. There are many arts that are still in villages that no one has brought out to the public that may counter Jiu-jitsu. When everyone masters it then another will come and take its place. It happened first with Karate, replaced with Kung Fu, which was countered with Filipino Kali, and now Jui-Jitsu is the top art. Many people have not heard of Silat which is an awesome art as well. It comes down to the person. The Gracies kicked ass in the beginning because no one understood or trained in Jiu-Jitsu. Just like when Kickboxing was first popular then Mui Thai came and kicked all their butts (stand up fighting).
Mar 24, 2008 at 12:57 pm 
AlistarDark
AlistarDark
Fort Saskatchewan
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pornask wrote:


Brock Lesnar is a monster of a dude, but in UFC, size means shit. UFC 81 fight between Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir is the proof of that. It also showed that being big because of excessive steriod use doesn't guarantee you nothing, not in UFC fights.

Brock Lesnar came to the UFC from wrestling, for which he has my utmost respect. He abandoned a joke and joined real sport. However in UFC all punches are real and it's likely Brock Lesnar's never even heard of a leg lock. When Frank Mir got him leg locked, Brock Lesnar tapped out. Most likely out of sheer surprise, cause the lock itself wasn't that strong. He likely panicked because in real fight (not WWE staged bullshit) your leg could actually break. So he ended the fight as soon as there was a sign of possible harm to his girly legs (BTW, did you notice how girly his legs are, totally unproportianate compared to the size of his monstrous upper body). Well, Brock Lesnar.... welcome the the world of real fights. Much respect for you though for moving on to UFC from WWE.

The highlight of UFC 81 were all those blank stares on faces of the WWE guys whose egos went right down the pooper after Brock Lesnar lost the fight. I can only imagine how full of shit their roid pumped mouth would get should he win - they would be like... yeah baby, WWE for realz, baby.

Brazilian jiu-jitsu once again proves to be as strong as ever.


I'm sure the NCAA wrestling program is a joke, eh? You know.. the one that Brock Lesnar was at the top of. Yep. Good work. You would not last 5 minutes with a "joke" athlete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WblNX7XC1Wk
Mar 24, 2008 at 1:53 pm 
UltimateSin
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Edmonton
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This was Brocks UFC debut but not his mma debut. He fought some other dude it's on youtube and won. He was owning Frank Mir through most of the fight but Mir caught him with a leg lock and won. It doesn't matter how u win just that u win, and Mir is the winner fair and square but he took a huge pounding. Even though he lost he was still pretty impressive and I think he'll do much better in the future.
Mar 25, 2008 at 11:25 am 
delicon
delicon
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I was making fun of Brock Lesnar prior to this fight, basically only because he was an ex wrestler, which in my eyes are pathetic roid pumped losers. But after the fight with Frank Mir I started to respect the guy and see him as great addition to UFC and possibly as a heavy weight champion one day. I'm a clear case of turning into a fan from hater.
Mar 25, 2008 at 11:40 am 
AlistarDark
AlistarDark
Fort Saskatchewan
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delicon wrote:
I was making fun of Brock Lesnar prior to this fight, basically only because he was an ex wrestler, which in my eyes are pathetic roid pumped losers. But after the fight with Frank Mir I started to respect the guy and see him as great addition to UFC and possibly as a heavy weight champion one day. I'm a clear case of turning into a fan from hater.


And by ex-wrestler, you mean NCAA Wrestling Champion... Yep.. you idiots fail.

I'd love to see one of you "he's a joke because he was in WWE" people get into a wrestling ring. Hell, come to a show and see it for yourself live. I've seen more injuries in "fake" wrestling than I have seen in "real" MMA
Mar 25, 2008 at 4:05 pm 
Tender
Tender
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AlistarDark wrote:
I've seen more injuries in "fake" wrestling than I have seen in "real" MMA


Damn some of them wrestlers are clumsy mofos

I kid
Mar 25, 2008 at 4:47 pm 
Punishment
Punishment
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Whew, this thread sure did rip apart a loved hobby of mine.


Feel free to have your opinions on it, I wouldn't dare try to change them or anything, but pro wrestlers are not doing anything to earn such savage disrespect. I don't understand the hate really.


It takes a special kind of athlete to do that kinda stuff, believe me. Alistar is 100% right on the risk comparison. Take a wrestlers schedule into consideration too when you make comparisons to the UFC.

Mar 26, 2008 at 6:11 pm 
Angie
Angie
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I don't think any ripping apart was happening here. Maybe some initial mocking, but respect went sky high after Brock Lesnar UFC performance. Even though he lost, he showed he's the real deal.

BTW - I'm always in first lines when it comes to making fun of Wrestlers, but I may change my mind if I see your pictures or video
Mar 26, 2008 at 6:49 pm 
AlistarDark
AlistarDark
Fort Saskatchewan
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Punishment wrote:
Whew, this thread sure did rip apart a loved hobby of mine.


Feel free to have your opinions on it, I wouldn't dare try to change them or anything, but pro wrestlers are not doing anything to earn such savage disrespect. I don't understand the hate really.


It takes a special kind of athlete to do that kinda stuff, believe me. Alistar is 100% right on the risk comparison. Take a wrestlers schedule into consideration too when you make comparisons to the UFC.


I was talking to a UFC fan and I asked when the next Mir fight is... I was told that they usually only have 2-4 fights a year...

So... WWE guys have 300 a year, put their bodies through hell.. and they are jokes...

UFC guys go out there.. 2-4 times a year... for max 15 minutes... That makes them a real athlete... But, 300 shows of constant impact to the head and back makes you a joke.

I'd love to see the MMA guys work 300 shows a year... I might be interested in watching it a little more...
Mar 26, 2008 at 6:51 pm 
AlistarDark
AlistarDark
Fort Saskatchewan
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Angie wrote:
I don't think any ripping apart was happening here. Maybe some initial mocking, but respect went sky high after Brock Lesnar UFC performance. Even though he lost, he showed he's the real deal.

BTW - I'm always in first lines when it comes to making fun of Wrestlers, but I may change my mind if I see your pictures or video


I got videos... and pictures of us...
Mar 26, 2008 at 6:51 pm 
IndieVixen
IndieVixen
Red Deer
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so, you guys do steroids too? Since you're wrestlers?
Mar 26, 2008 at 6:53 pm 
Lampwick
Lampwick
Calgary
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IndieVixen wrote:
so, you guys do steroids too? Since you're wrestlers?

LOL Do I hear the devils advocate talking.
Mar 26, 2008 at 7:13 pm 
Tender
Tender
Edmonton
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IndieVixen wrote:
so, you guys do steroids too? Since you're wrestlers?


That's a very legitimate question. Hope you don't end up like that other Edmontonian Chris Benoit
Mar 26, 2008 at 9:46 pm 
AlistarDark
AlistarDark
Fort Saskatchewan
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IndieVixen wrote:
so, you guys do steroids too? Since you're wrestlers?


Not every wrestler does steroids..


Does every MMA performer abuse drugs?
Mar 26, 2008 at 11:50 pm 
Punishment
Punishment
Edmonton
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No, I don't do steroids. Yes, LOTS of wrestlers do.

No, Steroids weren't why Benoit killed his family.


And when I went to the last King of the Cage event in Edmonton, I saw quite a few guys that were obviously on the gas. It's very predominant in wrestling, but steroids are in EVERY sport or anything that requires you to maintain a muscular build.
Mar 27, 2008 at 7:13 am 
Tender
Tender
Edmonton
Age: 31
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Punishment wrote:
No, I don't do steroids. Yes, LOTS of wrestlers do.


I would much rather watch real deal guys and gals wrestling than roid pumped smooth asses monkeying around. Glad to hear you're not at that stage yet.
Mar 27, 2008 at 8:56 am 
Punishment
Punishment
Edmonton
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I'll never be at that stage.

If I was contacted by the WWE and they said "Hey, we'll pay you 3-600k a year to do what you're doing, but you have to improve your body FAST if you know what we mean...." That'd be the only time I'd remotely consider it.

As for what I do now? Fuck that. There's no way I'd potentially harm my body with that shit for local wrestling shows.
Mar 27, 2008 at 4:17 pm 
Lila
Lila
Edmonton
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I'm certainly looking forward to checking out some of your sexy hunks next time I make it to your show
Mar 27, 2008 at 4:27 pm 
Punishment
Punishment
Edmonton
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You will enjoy Scotty Putty and Dusty Adonis.


But if you have a thing for rambling idiots with Bihawks....Well....That could work out well.
Mar 27, 2008 at 9:51 pm 
denny2729
denny2729
Vilna ab
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Sweet redemption for Brock at ufc 87. Total domination from start to finish. It looked as though Herring never got one good strike in. Still, Brock needs to get better training in submissions and elbows. He's so new and has a world of potential. He seemed alittle cocky at the end but hey...he deseved it. Way to go Brock.
Aug 10, 2008 at 4:14 pm 
Babie
Babie
Fort McMurray
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Brock Lesnar completely owned Heath Herring from start to finish. e's getting better and has potential to be one of the greatest UFC fighters. Still a lot of work for him, but he's improved a lot since fight with Frank Mir. Cocky end was needless, though. Still stupid remainder of his wrestling past.
Aug 10, 2008 at 9:12 pm 
Tender
Tender
Edmonton
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Brock Lesnar was being a douche after the fight (and during as well). I hope he was watching the real UFC fighter Georges St.Pierre and learned from him the way real fighters act. He's doing great, but he must realize that UFC is not WWE, UFC is a real sport.
Aug 10, 2008 at 11:08 pm 
FergusMaximus
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Brock Lesnar needs to learn how to finish fights, he just dry humped Herring the whole time. He had full mount so many times and it seemed like he didn't even know what to do with it.
Aug 10, 2008 at 11:51 pm 
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